Host: I know you and Mrs. Deng are exploring permaculture or sustainable agriculture. How is this concept different from what your neighbors are doing?-----
Patrick: You know the villagers, they are very surprised to see me coming here. Nobody was expecting a retired ambassador to come in such a remote place. So they are looking at us, they are looking at me. I don't speak the dialect, so this is a very big problem for me, I can not really engaged in the daily life. I always say “ting bu dong, ting bu dong” (I don’t understand, I don’t understand), I am Mr. Ting Bu Dong (I don’t understand),so I need Minyan to help me a lot with the translation. I think what I need to do here is to set up a community of like-minded people in order to work together, to start up a real communication with them, but it will also take time for me to have my own crops which can be a convincing. You don't move so easily from the traditional intensive monoculture to organic farming. It takes a lot of time. In order to make this movement possible, we need to make Kabissa strong with a community with people who can help to make myself understandable. If Chinese people coming themselves, engaged him organic farming, these people, they can talk to the farmers, they can interact much better than I can do myself. I am very interesting because I'm opening the door, massively bang, I opened the door. The ambassador is coming, what would this guy? So everybody is looking. This is a very good starting point. To make it happening, I need a team, I need people, I need a community, and this is what we are building up.
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